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  • #12385
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    So, how do the forum’s diabetics prepare their BOBs for an extended “leave”, if necessary.

    A couple things are a constant concern:

    • How do you go about obtaining backup stores of your supplies? (insurance companies simply won’t pay for back-ups anymore and only 30 days at a time)
    • How do you keep it cool?
    • food concerns?
    • i’m sure there are plenty of others

    I’m currently authoring an article on survival supplies, (specifically, how to choose storeable food items that don’t cause tremendous spikes in blood glucose) for the ADA magazine. it’s amazing how high in carbs everything in the “survival” world is.

    Slainte!

    Ron

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    Diabetic Bug-out?

    #152091
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    So, how do the forum’s diabetics prepare their BOBs for an extended “leave”, if necessary.

    A couple things are a constant concern:
    How do you go about obtaining backup stores of your supplies? (insurance companies simply won’t pay for back-ups anymore and only 30 days at a time)
    How do you keep it cool?
    food concerns?
    i’m sure there are plenty of others

    I’m currently authoring an article on survival supplies, (specifically, how to choose storeable food items that don’t cause tremendous spikes in blood glucose) for the ADA magazine. it’s amazing how high in carbs everything in the “survival” world is.

    Slainte!

    Ron

    #152092
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    So, how do the forum’s diabetics prepare their BOBs for an extended “leave”, if necessary.

    A couple things are a constant concern:
    How do you go about obtaining backup stores of your supplies? (insurance companies simply won’t pay for back-ups anymore and only 30 days at a time)
    How do you keep it cool?
    food concerns?
    i’m sure there are plenty of others

    I’m currently authoring an article on survival supplies, (specifically, how to choose storeable food items that don’t cause tremendous spikes in blood glucose) for the ADA magazine. it’s amazing how high in carbs everything in the “survival” world is.

    Slainte!

    Ron

    #152093
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    So, how do the forum’s diabetics prepare their BOBs for an extended “leave”, if necessary.

    A couple things are a constant concern:
    How do you go about obtaining backup stores of your supplies? (insurance companies simply won’t pay for back-ups anymore and only 30 days at a time)
    How do you keep it cool?
    food concerns?
    i’m sure there are plenty of others

    I’m currently authoring an article on survival supplies, (specifically, how to choose storeable food items that don’t cause tremendous spikes in blood glucose) for the ADA magazine. it’s amazing how high in carbs everything in the “survival” world is.

    Slainte!

    Ron

    #152094
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    I’m glad someone’s taking a look at this. I’m a type I, but I simply keep at least 1 month’s backup in the fridge, and I could grab it if need be. As far as the carbs go, for me I would take short term survival over long term damage and just adapt as best as I could. I’m on Lantus/Humalog, so that would mean taking a LOT of Humalog, but it could be somewhat dealt with.

    #152095
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    I’m glad someone’s taking a look at this. I’m a type I, but I simply keep at least 1 month’s backup in the fridge, and I could grab it if need be. As far as the carbs go, for me I would take short term survival over long term damage and just adapt as best as I could. I’m on Lantus/Humalog, so that would mean taking a LOT of Humalog, but it could be somewhat dealt with.

    #152096
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    I’m glad someone’s taking a look at this. I’m a type I, but I simply keep at least 1 month’s backup in the fridge, and I could grab it if need be. As far as the carbs go, for me I would take short term survival over long term damage and just adapt as best as I could. I’m on Lantus/Humalog, so that would mean taking a LOT of Humalog, but it could be somewhat dealt with.

    #152097
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    I’m glad someone’s taking a look at this. I’m a type I, but I simply keep at least 1 month’s backup in the fridge, and I could grab it if need be. As far as the carbs go, for me I would take short term survival over long term damage and just adapt as best as I could. I’m on Lantus/Humalog, so that would mean taking a LOT of Humalog, but it could be somewhat dealt with.

    #152098
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    I’m glad someone’s taking a look at this. I’m a type I, but I simply keep at least 1 month’s backup in the fridge, and I could grab it if need be. As far as the carbs go, for me I would take short term survival over long term damage and just adapt as best as I could. I’m on Lantus/Humalog, so that would mean taking a LOT of Humalog, but it could be somewhat dealt with.

    #152099
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    Many mail order prescriptions will allow for a 3 month supply. Talk to your doctor. Tell them you would like to keep some extra meds around for emergencies. Mind gave me some extra meds to keep on hand. I am type I and unfortunately in a total societal breakdown I am up the creek without a paddle. It also helps to have a friend or two in the medical field.

    Rongoms:

    Please keep us posted on your article. I would love to read it.

    #152100
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    Many mail order prescriptions will allow for a 3 month supply. Talk to your doctor. Tell them you would like to keep some extra meds around for emergencies. Mind gave me some extra meds to keep on hand. I am type I and unfortunately in a total societal breakdown I am up the creek without a paddle. It also helps to have a friend or two in the medical field.

    Rongoms:

    Please keep us posted on your article. I would love to read it.

    #152101
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    Aside: for the non-diabetics reading this thread, there are two types of diabetes, type 1, which is generally insulin-dependent and type 2, AKA adult-onset, which is often managed by oral meds, such as metformin. A “type 1.5” is also emerging, usually an insulin-managed adult-onset diabetic. There are essentially two types of insulin for type 1 diabetics, fast acting (humalog and variants) and slow acting (lantus)

    I think i’ll definitely post the high points of the article here before it goes to publication. (i think my somewhat snide sense of humour is more appreciated here :p )

    I’ve found a couple ways around the 1-3 month supply and keep about 6 months. I’m lucky i’m on Lantus only. Lantus stores about 1 month at room temp, but I’ve been told by my lab buddies that storing it in cool (<40 deg) water is as good as keeping it in the fridge, allowing it to last almost to the expiration date. Reason #88756 why all three of our bug-out locations are on mountain-fed streams.

    I agree with you Clead, i'll take survival over a glucose spike any day, but for some folks, eating a bunch of MREs or Mountain Home stuff, 1000mg of carbs could be fatal. Too many folks, amazingly, including many diabetics, think that sugar is the bad-guy, when it's really carbs.

    I'm seeing some studies that say that green tea and Bitter Melon derivatives do an incredible job of lowering glucose without insulin....so maybe that is our temporary solution for situations where you can't carry insulin with you for extended periods.

    I'm seeing a trend here that i think i'm going to need to address: Tactical Insulin Carry methods. (oh, stop it, i know what you're thinking...some of you people are buying tactical PENS, for god's sake.....)

    #152102
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    Aside: for the non-diabetics reading this thread, there are two types of diabetes, type 1, which is generally insulin-dependent and type 2, AKA adult-onset, which is often managed by oral meds, such as metformin. A “type 1.5” is also emerging, usually an insulin-managed adult-onset diabetic. There are essentially two types of insulin for type 1 diabetics, fast acting (humalog and variants) and slow acting (lantus)

    I think i’ll definitely post the high points of the article here before it goes to publication. (i think my somewhat snide sense of humour is more appreciated here :p )

    I’ve found a couple ways around the 1-3 month supply and keep about 6 months. I’m lucky i’m on Lantus only. Lantus stores about 1 month at room temp, but I’ve been told by my lab buddies that storing it in cool (<40 deg) water is as good as keeping it in the fridge, allowing it to last almost to the expiration date. Reason #88756 why all three of our bug-out locations are on mountain-fed streams.

    I agree with you Clead, i'll take survival over a glucose spike any day, but for some folks, eating a bunch of MREs or Mountain Home stuff, 1000mg of carbs could be fatal. Too many folks, amazingly, including many diabetics, think that sugar is the bad-guy, when it's really carbs.

    I'm seeing some studies that say that green tea and Bitter Melon derivatives do an incredible job of lowering glucose without insulin....so maybe that is our temporary solution for situations where you can't carry insulin with you for extended periods.

    I'm seeing a trend here that i think i'm going to need to address: Tactical Insulin Carry methods. (oh, stop it, i know what you're thinking...some of you people are buying tactical PENS, for god's sake.....)

    #152103
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    Micro-fridge, inverter and a car battery should get you a few days of storage. As far as getting insurance companies to pop for emergency supplies…oops I lost my bag on the way home from the drugstore and it had all my prescriptions in it. Not encouraging anyone to do anything illegal just saying its your :censored: in a disaster situation.

    Other option is ask your doc for samples, just did that today for my mom and the doc hooked us up with nearly a months supply of several of her meds.

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