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  • #17738
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    Afternoon everyone
    I am looking at getting a watch, my first decent one at least. I do love the look of pocket watches so I ordered a cheapo mechanical one to test as part of my edc.

    I can’t see many threads on pocket watches or many people who edc one so I made this threadΒ :). Kind of a general journey into pocket watchesΒ :).

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    #127353
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    I don’t mean to scare you at all, but the Chinese standard movements in the cheap mechanical pocketwatches often need to be regulated to keep good time and they’re roughly finished. They’re workhorses though, and regulating a watch is fairly easy πŸ™‚
    I love the look and feel of pocketwatches, but I don’t own a decent one that I don’t mind carrying (and I already have a watch tan). Mine are a cheapo quartz that doesn’t keep time worth a darn anymore and an old Westclox pocket ben in almost mint condition (regulated by me).
    Good luck on your new watch and welcome to the wonderful, wacky world of watch collecting (and horology)!

    #127356
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    Keymaster

    Thanks for the reply!
    Yeah haha I know, I know what buying cheap Chinese means :). Its mainly to see what its like to carry one and if I like it. Also if I drop it I wont cry haha.

    When it comes I will post a couple of pictures and see how it keeps time, see if it loses more than 30s a week. I have heard of some losing 2 mins a day hahah. Its the Alias Kim brand.

    I sense watches are a slop just as slippery as knives πŸ™‚

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    #127359
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    For reference the pocket watch was $18 AUD shipped so I am not expecting a Tissot πŸ™‚

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    #127361
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    Keep in mind as well that for about 125 years, a variation of plus or minus 30 seconds a week wasn’t just considered acceptable- that was the absolute best in the world. +- 30s/week was railroad standard, and the railroad grade watches were the absolute finest watches money could buy in their era (and some of the finest now)
    An acceptable variation in a well-regulated modern movement is plus or minus 30 seconds a day, and that’s with Seiko type movements. It’s absolutely possible to achieve with a Chinese Standard movement with a little tweaking at the regulator tab.
    Watches, if you get into the hobby side and collecting, are very addictive… I have a rapidly filling 10 slot watch box and a couple of beaters floating around. Like I said, welcome and if I can be of any help, I’ll be happy to help or try my absolute best to point you in the direction of proper information. I’m no expert in this field (or any field) but I have spent quite a lot of time learning about watches and what makes them tick (movements!)

    #127365
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    Ohh I see, that is interesting! It should come tomorrow or the next day πŸ™‚ so I will see how it keeps time. Until I looked at these it never occurred to me that they could lose/gain time from a day to day basis, but I guess I never thought about it.

    I didn’t know you could tweak them, now I am really excited :). Is it easy to tweak them? I know getting them correct wont be easy however.

    Thank you for the kind welcome πŸ™‚

    #127367
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    I haven’t worked on any Chinese Standard movements, so I can’t comment on that particular movement but the Westclox movement (simple handwind like the Standard) was very easy to regulate. I would look at watchuseek for some more information on your particular movement (or google how to regulate it) and have a go at it. Of course, like anything else, attempt at your own risk and there’s a danger of getting hooked on watch repair (I was!)

    #127378
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    Thank you πŸ™‚
    If I damage this one, I might have buy a nicer and newer one :help:

    #127381
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    Ive carried mechanical pocket watches a bit myself but stepped away from it for a couple very simple reasons. First of all, the main selling point for a watch to me is the ability to move my hand up and be able to tell time without having to dig trough my pockets first (might as well grab my phone at that point). Second is; My pockets are always full whereas on my wrist i can usually squeeze in a little something without too much trouble. Also i will forget to wind a pocket watch. With the movement you have on your wrist its very easy to keep an automatic going and even a simple mechanical will be in view so regularly that i wind it often enough whereas in my pocket it will be a case of out of sight-out of mind. Also in my case (old ETA movement) the pocket watch would keep time no problem for a couple days then lose/gain time at random during other days completely defeating the point of a clock for me. Getting a proper multiple position regulated movement or heck, even a proper tourbillon would fix that last one but meh…. Wrist watch is the choice for me!!

    #127384
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    I get that about getting it out.

    This will be interesting to play with πŸ™‚

    #127386
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    @Westerdutch
    It sounds like your movement may need/have needed a servicing… ETA movements should be fairly reliable timekeepers.
    Also, a tourbillon is a complication that is completely unneeded in a modern movement IIRC- they’re included on some watches as a novelty πŸ™‚

    #127389
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    thatotherguy said: ↑
    @Westerdutch
    It sounds like your movement may need/have needed a servicing… ETA movements should be fairly reliable timekeepers.
    Also, a tourbillon is a complication that is completely unneeded in a modern movement IIRC- they’re included on some watches as a novelty πŸ™‚

    Oh im sure it needed servicing and regulating, but even if i put that time and effort into it i would still no be happy with the pocket movement.. so i just let it be. And tourbillons have actually been invented for pocket watches, movements that are being kept in a single position for prolonged periods of time. So yes, on a wristwatch or ‘in modern applications’ its unneeded as those movements change positions a lot but since we are talking about pocket watches here i felt it was worth mentioning.

    #127392
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    I rarely carry a pocket watch, but when I do it’s when I have a vest pocket to carry it in. 3-4 times a year perhaps. I find carrying a watch on a chain in any other pocket awkward as hell.

    #127394
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    I have several different pocket watches. My favorite is this one:

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    It has a battery, is rock solid and keeps good time. I see these on eBay in the ~$75 range all the time. I also have a very nice — slightly more expensive — Mondaine pocket watch … I’ll post a photo later on that one.

    #127396
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    Quartz watches are completely different beasts from mechanicals. They almost have no moving parts with any weight to em so they will not be affected by position nearly as much.

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