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Does anyone have any trigger or carry time with these? My brother saw one at the gun store the other day at a pretty good price. I had never heard of it before so I looked it up. Interesting design, with some interesting features. That double action+ looks like it may be pretty nice, but definitely some practice will be needed with it.
If ya’ll have any experience with one of these I’m all ears! Or eyes I guess.
Thanks!
I’ve played with one, but not extensively.
Nutnfancy has a favorable review. Apparently, it’s not a particularly new design…it’s a copy of a design used by the Korean military for a while.
One of Walther’s actions is also somewhat similar, though striker fired (decocker for heavy DA, press check for long SA, or nothing for short SA).
My LGS was blowing them out a while ago because they just weren’t selling.
I believe this is pretty much the same thing as the Daewoo DP51 which has been around for a very long time. My friend who was stationed in South Korea for a few years has one and likes it quite a bit. He tells me it’s reliable and pretty accurate. I haven’t had a chance to shoot it, but it feels like a 2nd Gen S&W semi-auto pistol in my hands. He’s a DEA agent and carries a Glock 22.
Thanks for the response. We’re on our way to check it out now. He said it was a pretty good price. I’ll let you guys know my impressions of it.
I really like the color options, the price, and the grip texturing. From what I know they are durable, reliable and accurate. You might want to check on the price of spare magazines. If you are like me, 10-15 is what I shoot for. The main reason holding me back from buying one is that I want to keep my gun collection around 10 maximum.
I have a lifelong friend that owns a rather large gun store in a major metropolitan area so I have frequent exposure to many handguns. He even lets me fire any one of them that I want.
I’ve worked on several of his 1911s so he knows that I am biased towards those made or “sculpted” by the boutique shops such as Baer, Wilson, & Garthwaite. I like those that have had the sharp external edges gently beveled and not “melted” like those done by Clark’s (Google “melted 1911”). This brings me to my point about the LS9. It has some of the worst external edges on a handgun that I have ever handled. Perhaps it was the sample that was made available to me.
As an example, the area on the frame just behind the safety actually lacerated my thumb as I depressed that control. The recoil of a handgun when fired is something to be expected. Getting cut by a sharp edge ON a handgun because the maker didn’t do the job of “dehorning’ it is inexcusable.
It NEEDS trigger action work. The trigger is a bit long and “crunchy.” I’m not just stating that just because of my preference for a VERY smooth action. I’ve stated elsewhere on these pages that I found the world-renown ultra-smooth trigger on the famous Colt Python revolver was still in need of fine tuning. And I “re-smithed” it.:D
Otherwise, the LS9 appears to be acceptable as a defensive handgun.
I’ll echo @9dBm’s sentiments about the trigger.
I’ve definitely felt worse, and at this point, I don’t think it would really bother me…but if I had one, it’d have a date with a gunsmith.
My brother ended up getting it. $430 out the door. I like the way it handles so far. Hopefully we’ll get some trigger time with it this weekend. It was the compact model with flat dark earth frame.
Finally got to the range to try out the Lionheart. My brother and I put about 250 rounds through it with zero failures. Man its a sweet gun. Trigger pull is really nice. Smooth with a short reset. Good sights and accurate. We were shooting about 7-10 yards. All head shots for me with zero misses at 7 yards. Missed a few at 10 with the first mag. Second mag was much more consistent at 10. Overall a great handling and shooting gun. Basically, I’m a little jealous of it. I shot it better than my own p250.
I’ll update again next time we bring it out. Maybe a week or two, whenever my new pistol comes in
How does the grip area feel to you?
I know this is a very very subjective question (maybe not worth asking), but what other pistol do you feel the ergonomics follow or is there even one you feel it might compare to (ex. Glock, Springfield, Kahr, etc). I cant find anyone around me that carries the Lionheart’s, but they do look very interesting.
At first the grip area feels like it may develop some hot spots while shooting. Completely opposite of that. Provides a really solid grip. Easy to control the mild recoil. Doesn’t feel like there’s too much muzzle flip, more straight back for easy follow up shots.
The only pistols I’ve shot consistently within the last few years are a PM9, Sig p250 and p238. It feels nothing like them.
The closest thing I could compare it to would be maybe a slightly thicker 1911, with the single action trigger of a p226. Keep in mind it’s been about 4 years since I’ve shot a 1911 and 8 or 9 since the p226.
I read somewhere that they feel similar to the older Smith and Wesson 6900 series ( I think that’s what they’re called).
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