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I posted this information in a reply to another post in the forum but thought I’d post it as a freestanding item. I am going to a “Stop the Bleed” program at one of my local libraries next week. It is part of a national effort by the American College of Surgeons and others to provide this training. It’s free and sponsored by our regional EMS Council. I’ll report back after it’s over.
Here is a link to find this program offered near you: http://www.stopthebleedtraining.org/
I went to the Stop the Bleed program. Lasted 2 hours. About an hour of lecture on bleeding control. Then we broke into three groups and rotated through 3 stations. In one station we each put a CAT tourniquet on ourselves and on a partner. At the second station there was a wound simulator and we had the opportunity to pack a wound and apply an Israeli bandage and an Oleas bandage. The third station was a look at one of the host EMS agencies’ ambulances and their mass trauma response kits (each has 40 CAT tourniquets, 40 Israeli bandages, chest seals and 200 pairs of gloves).
So, although some of the lecture information will be old hat to many on the forum, it was good information. The opportunity to use a tourniquet on myself and a partner was worth it (I have CATs but have never actually applied one) and doing the wound packing was neat.
They also had bleeding control kits for sale as a public service (plus they made a couple bucks on each to support the program).
If you get a chance to go to one of these programs in your area I’d encourage your attendance.
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I went to the Stop the Bleed program. Lasted 2 hours. About an hour of lecture on bleeding control. Then we broke into three groups and rotated through 3 stations. In one station we each put a CAT tourniquet on ourselves and on a partner. At the second station there was a wound simulator and we had the opportunity to pack a wound and apply an Israeli bandage and an Oleas bandage. The third station was a look at one of the host EMS agencies’ ambulances and their mass trauma response kits (each has 40 CAT tourniquets, 40 Israeli bandages, chest seals and 200 pairs of gloves).So, although some of the lecture information will be old hat to many on the forum, it was good information. The opportunity to use a tourniquet on myself and a partner was worth it (I have CATs but have never actually applied one) and doing the wound packing was neat.
They also had bleeding control kits for sale as a public service (plus they made a couple bucks on each to support the program).
If you get a chance to go to one of these programs in your area I’d encourage your attendance.
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I attended one of these in October and we only got to apply CAT and SWAT-T tourniquets, along with some wound packing with rolled gauze. I wish we had the opportunity to use Israeli bandages and the Olaes ones. I’ve been thinking about adding the Olaes flat packed bandages to my kit. Would have been great to try before I buy. They’re not expensive, but still.Anyways, I’d say take one of these classes. They’re free. Why not?
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I think I spent three months skipping over the Stop the Bleed promotional Goruck did every time I pulled up a YouTube video. I watched it once, skipped it perhaps 200 more times.
volvoboy said: ↑
I posted this information in a reply to another post in the forum but thought I’d post it as a freestanding item. I am going to a “Stop the Bleed” program at one of my local libraries next week. It is part of a national effort by the American College of Surgeons and others to provide this training. It’s free and sponsored by our regional EMS Council. I’ll report back after it’s over.Here is a link to find this program offered near you: http://www.stopthebleedtraining.org/
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I was fortunate enough to meet Dr. Alex Eastman at an ALERRT conference that I attended a couple of months ago. He is the creator of the Stop the Bleed Campaign as well as a SWAT physician for the Dallas Police Department. Making this training as common as CPR is critical in reducing the fatality rate in hostile mass casualty incidents. Good on you for attending the training!firemedic183 said: ↑
I was fortunate enough to meet Dr. Alex Eastman at an ALERRT conference that I attended a couple of months ago. He is the creator of the Stop the Bleed Campaign as well as a SWAT physician for the Dallas Police Department. Making this training as common as CPR is critical in reducing the fatality rate in hostile mass casualty incidents. Good on you for attending the training!
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You think in ten years we’ll find tourniquets mounted like AEDs?Yes–its happening now. Just flew back through the Charlotte airport and they have added bleeding control kits to their AED cabinets. Wish I’d have taken a photo. The medical retailers (Rescue Essentials, etc) are selling the adaptor kits and cabinets now. It’s a pretty neat idea.
firemedic183 said: ↑
I was fortunate enough to meet Dr. Alex Eastman at an ALERRT conference that I attended a couple of months ago. He is the creator of the Stop the Bleed Campaign as well as a SWAT physician for the Dallas Police Department. Making this training as common as CPR is critical in reducing the fatality rate in hostile mass casualty incidents. Good on you for attending the training!
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Is there an updated link?
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Here is the updated link for courses: https://cms.bleedingcontrol.org/class/search I have noticed that this is not a comprehensive list, and many localities are sponsoring local courses so it may be good to do a google search for your local area for stop the bleed courses.volvoboy said: ↑
Here is the updated link for courses: https://cms.bleedingcontrol.org/class/search I have noticed that this is not a comprehensive list, and many localities are sponsoring local courses so it may be good to do a google search for your local area for stop the bleed courses.
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Thank you! I keep seeing Facebook or news reports about classes that just happened, but cannot seem to get info about upcoming classes. I’ll keep trying!ArkansasFan30 said: ↑
You think in ten years we’ll find tourniquets mounted like AEDs?
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I hope the disposition of bleeding control kits does not come before training. It will be like handing out Narcan to anyone with a pulse, now we have parents giving their kids the “miracle drug” and tucking them in, only to find them dead in the morning because the Narcan wore off before the opiod.volvoboy said: ↑
I went to the Stop the Bleed program. Lasted 2 hours. About an hour of lecture on bleeding control. Then we broke into three groups and rotated through 3 stations. In one station we each put a CAT tourniquet on ourselves and on a partner. At the second station there was a wound simulator and we had the opportunity to pack a wound and apply an Israeli bandage and an Oleas bandage. The third station was a look at one of the host EMS agencies’ ambulances and their mass trauma response kits (each has 40 CAT tourniquets, 40 Israeli bandages, chest seals and 200 pairs of gloves).So, although some of the lecture information will be old hat to many on the forum, it was good information. The opportunity to use a tourniquet on myself and a partner was worth it (I have CATs but have never actually applied one) and doing the wound packing was neat.
They also had bleeding control kits for sale as a public service (plus they made a couple bucks on each to support the program).
If you get a chance to go to one of these programs in your area I’d encourage your attendance.
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Who sold or gave you a CAT without training? People have to realize just having a piece of equipment does NOT make you safer or help you save lives, training does. Way before there were commercial tourniquets trained professional were saving lives with them. You can have all the public access AED’s you want but time and time again the research shows what saves lives is high quality CPR from a trained provider. Get involved and get trained, get your family, friends and co-workers trained.TakeDeadAim said: ↑
I hope the disposition of bleeding control kits does not come before training. It will be like handing out Narcan to anyone with a pulse, now we have parents giving their kids the “miracle drug” and tucking them in, only to find them dead in the morning because the Narcan wore off before the opiod.
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I actually just saw a picture of a bleeding control station on Instagram set up like an AED box. I made the account to follow interesting parties and this serves as an example.Aren’t the NAR audio bleeding control kits designed to work along the same principle as an AED so it talks you through step by step how to use everything? https://www.narescue.com/audio-bleeding-control-kits
It seems like a good idea IMO. Applying a TQ isn’t too difficult and if people are being talked through it, they’d be more willing to try.
I’d like to see these mounted next to AEDs on every street corner ideally. They’re also about a third of the price of an AED
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Who sold or gave you a CAT without training? People have to realize just having a piece of equipment does NOT make you safer or help you save lives, training does. Way before there were commercial tourniquets trained professional were saving lives with them. You can have all the public access AED’s you want but time and time again the research shows what I join saves lives is high quality CPR from a trained provider. Get involved and get trained, get your family, friends and co-workers trained.
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Unfortunately its not always so easy. I joined my firm’s Emergency Response Team to get to the front of the waiting list for CPR training, which was great. But they don’t offer Stop the Bleed. In fact. I can’t find a STB class/trainer anywhere in San Francisco. It’s a bit discouraging, but I’m not going to give up.S.F. is focused mainly on ERTraining for earthquakes and such, so plenty of urban CERT training, but the STB seems to be left up to CPR trainers, and not many offer it.
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