jackknife said: ↑
I think you’l find that the Case is aboe to do everything the other knife will, plus more. You have a choice of three different blades in one small pocket size package. The only thing not there is the one hand opening. This is something that marketing has convinced knife buyers that they need over anything else.

When I was growing up, there was no one hand opening knives, yet every man who had pants on had a pocket knife. The knife of that era was the same for the hundred years before; a small one or two bladed pen knife of some kind. Usual size was about 3 inches closed. Yet, these man, who lived a more hands on rural life than the urban office cubical of now, did very well with those old fashioned pocket knives. They cut what was needed to cut with no problems. Opening a box, breaking down a box, cutting some string, opening a plastic blister package, all take a one or two inch blade. One of the most produced pocket knives in the entire world is the Victyoriox classic. This little classic is made in numbers of 9 million a year. Going by production numb era, more people on earth are carrying a Vic classic than any other three brands of the modern one hand wonders.

The modern one hand knife is a pretty recent thing witht he birth of the so called tactical knife thing. The knife industry had to think of something to artificially stimulate a dying industry, so they sold a lot of hype and ‘cool’ factor. In the years after WW2, there was a huge, great migration to the urban lifestyle from the country. Need for a pock tknife shrunk, and most of the U.S. knife factors went belly up. Camillus, Keen Kutter, Schrade, PAL, Utica, and a bout 50 mnore all went broke in the 1950’s t the 1980’s. It was in the 1980’s the “modern” knife was created.

I’ve used traditional pocket knives my whole life, and I really tried to like the modern stuff, but having jus tone blade was just too limiting. I like having a spare blade or even some basic tools like on a SAK. Yeah, the modern stuff can be flipped one in a dramatic way, but it’s just a one trick pony with one single bade on hand. If you need a shorter blade for some close work, you’re out of luck. If the blade gets messed up by a dirty job, you don’t have one with the modern one hand knife. I keep the spey blade of my stockman dull for hard use scraping and poking work that I now will mess up a nice edge. The sheep foot blade is pretty sharp for box and package opening. The main blade is very sharp for good slicing and dicing. Three different blades, three different bale shapes and degrees of sharpness. All in one small package.

As for them being a bit slow to open; use that moment to take a metal breather and size up what you’re about to do. I take a moment to think about how I’m about to use the knife, or maybe just to admire the knife if it’s an old friend.

This little Remington/Camillus peanut has been a everyday companion for a few years now and has done everything I’ve needed from a pocket knife, as has the tiny Victorinox classic.
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The ugly truth is, we don’t need much knife in everyday modern life. With no chinese paratroopers dropping out of the sky, or hostile injun’s coming over the hill to scalp us, anything more than a small penknife size knife is overkill. Unless you are one of the obsessed knife nuts, like the rest of us. Knife nuts are like car nuts, gun nuts, and other aficionados of object worship. They go for overkill. The car nut will had to have a porsche to go to work, while the rest of humanity uses a Toyota or Honda. The knife nut will have to have the latest and greatest the knife magazines push to satisfy the advertisers.

When I stopped reading knife magazines and cut my forum time way back, I stopped ;ousting after every new knife I saw.
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I fully agree that most of us don’t need much knife in our urban office environment. That said, when I do use my knife I want to be confident it won’t close on my fingers and I really find it useful that I can get my knife ready without letting go of the object I’m working with.
The fact is however, it should be very possible to make locking folders with one hand opening, without making them large and murdery/tactical. Still, not many makers focus on this part of the market.
I only carry sub 3 inch knives for edc, even if it would be legally possible to carry larger knives. My favorite by far, is the Small Sebenza, but even that is large for my edc needs. I wouldn’t mind a something like a micro Sebenza, but it seems that the logic of the makers is that customers will pay more for bigger knives, and don’t really care about making small knives with equal quality. Much like the mobile phone scene before Sony started making small versions of their flagship phones. I think there must be a market for this type of knife.

I’m actually intrigued by the size and appearance of some traditional(ish) knifes, but I don’t want to give up the benefits that one hand opening and blade locks provide (to me). So based on my own limited experience I do think there is a real advantage to this kind of knife, and not just marketing gimmick.

BTW: I have never read a knife magazine or really been exposed to folding knife marketing. I was in my late 30s when I bought my first folding knife a few years back, after accidentally stumbling upon some YouTube reviews of modern folders. Of course the snowball gained momentum after that, and now I’m here.

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Sorry to hijack your tread like that 🙂 My point was that it’s possible to keep it simple without opting for pure traditional.
I think it’s nice that traditional knives seem to have a big following and I think your challenge is interesting and points out something important; that most of us don’t really need so much knife, traditional or not.
Again, good luck! (I think you will get through the month without any problems)

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…and I’m carrying THREE knives today :rofl:

aicolainen said: ↑
I fully agree that most of us don’t need much knife in our urban office environment. That said, when I do use my knife I want to be confident it won’t close on my fingers and I really find it useful that I can get my knife ready without letting go of the object I’m working with.
The fact is however, it should be very possible to make locking folders with one hand opening, without making them large and murdery/tactical. Still, not many makers focus on this part of the market.
I only carry sub 3 inch knives for edc, even if it would be legally possible to carry larger knives. My favorite by far, is the Small Sebenza, but even that is large for my edc needs. I wouldn’t mind a something like a micro Sebenza, but it seems that the logic of the makers is that customers will pay more for bigger knives, and don’t really care about making small knives with equal quality. Much like the mobile phone scene before Sony started making small versions of their flagship phones. I think there must be a market for this type of knife.

I’m actually intrigued by the size and appearance of some traditional(ish) knifes, but I don’t want to give up the benefits that one hand opening and blade locks provide (to me). So based on my own limited experience I do think there is a real advantage to this kind of knife, and not just marketing gimmick.

BTW: I have never read a knife magazine or really been exposed to folding knife marketing. I was in my late 30s when I bought my first folding knife a few years back, after accidentally stumbling upon some YouTube reviews of modern folders. Of course the snowball gained momentum after that, and now I’m here.

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As just one example, there are always the Spyderco Ladybugs. Small; you can open one handed; lock with a back lock. Several different grinds available; several different steels. When I say small I mean they easily travel in the coin pocket of jeans.

This is only an example.

L’chaim!

Moshe ben David

For me, Im more of a traditional/slipjoint guy, who occasionally “forces” himself to try prove that a mid or modern tech knife is really what I should EDC (of course I have a “few” of those to pick from)

I always end up back at the beginning. Traditionals. Slipjoints. Of which by virtue of the fact that I have more than a few, proves to me the fact that Im an old schooler knifewise.

SV-97 said: ↑
I grew up with SAKs as the pretty much only pocket knife I knew. Over the years I went to cheap(like, really cheap), “tactical” S&W or Walther knives that I beat on until they broke. Nowadays I kinda despise both. It just a few years ago came to my attention that old style traditional knives are a thing and I started collecting them about a year ago(mostly GEC). But the traditionals are for me more of a spare time knife where I don’t usually do a lot of cutting. At work I stay with modern “super steels” since I need to do really clean looking precise cuts. I just can’t get the 1095 used in many traditionals to that level of performance even though I have often heard and also read(in metallurgy books) that the traditional C-Steels can do magical stuff. Plus I also don’t see myself scrouching around in my pocket with gloves on searching for my knife only to drop it back in 3seconds later and search it again another 3s in. That’s another point going towards the modern stuff that I can easily grab and open in a second or so no matter gloves or barehanded.
But I’m more than confident that once I’m back in a more office setting this summer the traditionals will be more than enough and from a collecting POV they also just scratch a really different itch

Great thread, keep it going 😀

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I sometimes carry my larger traditionals/slipjoints/SAK either in a belt sheath or (especially the SAK) using a dangler like a P7 in the pocket. Won’t solve the problem of opening them with gloves on but totally takes care of the issue of digging them out.

With regard to opening, Victorinox do have a few larger styles that are designed with a hole (like Spyderco) for one hand opening. I think these were designed for backpackers, campers, etc.; in true Victorinox style several have a variety of blades/tools. Here is an example:

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Victorinox One-Hand Trekker

L’chaim!

Moshe ben David

Moshe ben David said: ↑
I sometimes carry my larger traditionals/slipjoints/SAK either in a belt sheath or (especially the SAK) using a dangler like a P7 in the pocket. Won’t solve the problem of opening them with gloves on but totally takes care of the issue of digging them out.

With regard to opening, Victorinox do have a few larger styles that are designed with a hole (like Spyderco) for one hand opening. I think these were designed for backpackers, campers, etc.; in true Victorinox style several have a variety of blades/tools. Here is an example:

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pic from Amazon (of course!).
Victorinox One-Hand Trekker

L’chaim!

Moshe ben David
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Yeah I have a P7 but that just isn’t for me
The one hand opening Vics would be an solution but I don’t like the looks of them(SAKs in general but the one-hand ones are even worse)
If I had to get an SAK I’d opt for a G Sakai with ZDP and a slightly more wharncliffy blade 😀

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colin.p said: ↑
Got my first (and so far only) traditional a week ago, a Case 10375 with g10 covers. I’ve carried it a couple times but really like the “handiness” of it. I didn’t think I would have much use for the smaller spey or sheepsfoot, but I find I use them rather than the large clip point. I was thinking about getting or making a slip for it, but I figure it will outlast me, so I just throw it in my pocket.

Don’t know if I could go a whole month just carrying it, but I just may have to give that a try, but it will be hard, as I also just got a mini griptilian.:rolleyes:

ps, I don’t see an attachment setting, but the knife is what my avatar is.
If i can do it, you can do it!

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