Deep carry….am I missing anything?

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SmartCarry works well with a smaller gun. I wore one for years with no issues. Keep in mind that it is a fabric holster and it is *possible* to activate the trigger through the fabric on some guns, so you might want a pistol with a manual safety or a heavy trigger.

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Have you looked at belly bands?

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b yond said: ↑
Have you looked at belly bands?

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Yes. I haven’t tried one.

After experimenting with the smart carry thing, it wasn’t the size of the gun so much as how wide it is and how far apart the 2 pockets are.

I’m thinking about trying to semi-permanently attach a belt to my existing holster (not clips) and maybe order a second one just for that.

My hesitation about a belly band is that they seem like they just hold it instead of protecting it. If one integrated kydex (like my current holster, which is basically perfect), I’d definitely try it.

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moostapha said: ↑
I’m generally very happy with my carry setup.

It works well as long as my shirt is un-tucked. I also have a little trigger-guard only thing for when I want to go lighter (e.g., fat days) as well as the exact same rig for a glock 19 that I never use. They’re all technically tuckable, but they don’t work well like that….the belt (SOE low profile) sags just a bit, and it prints too much. Plus it takes far too long.

So…I’m looking for a deeper concealment rig for when I have to tuck in my shirt but want to be able to remove my jacket freely.

The two that come to mind are a smart carry or a shoulder holster under the shirt. Both kind of require a smaller gun, which I’m fine with. I’m also leaning towards the smart carry.

Am I missing any other options? (Not super interested in pocket carry…maybe jacket pocket)
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Get a better belt that won’t sag at all, and increase the angle of your holster. This will pull the pistols grip closer to your body. Having the mag in that placement will also increase printing. Consider a tuckable weak side mag holder.

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IF repeat IF you decide to go with a pocket holster and downsize your blaster, a Recluse TS (two sided) holster has a slit that allows access to the grip, but still provides a full flap to the outside that helps prevent printing… mine for the G42 is a cargo model with a “foot” to keep it from rotating, and they make a pocket version that is slanted to fit in a normal front pocket…. Thunder Wear and a PPK were not that comfortable

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If you have suggestions better than the SOE Low Profile belt, I’d love to try it. I’m not convinced one exists. It’s as stiff as my my cr speed belt.

It doesn’t sag so much as it rotates forward with my hip bones as a fulcrum.

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I may have missed it, but what position on your belt do you usually carry this setup?

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chaosmagnet said: ↑
I’ve messed with almost every deep-concealment carry technique out there other than ankle holsters (which I know are not for me). If I can’t wear an untucked shirt or some other carry garment, I put my Bodyguard .380 in my front right pocket. My pocket holster is a DeSantis Nemisis. It’s far from perfect, but if it’s a choice between harsh language and a gun I know I can make hits with, I’ll take the Bodyguard. YMMV.

+1 on the Bodyguard. Carried in pocket in a Sticky holster. (and a spare mag in the other front pocket with my wallet. Works quite well for me.

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I carry a crossbreed mini tuck with my g43 and it works great for tucked or untucked shirts without any real printing. Just 2 black clips exposed over the belt that don’t look out of place at all. Or I carry my j-frame in a Blackhawk pocket holster in l/f or r/f pocket. Depending on wether or not I’m carrying my g43 iwb.

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jkwithawave said: ↑
I may have missed it, but what position on your belt do you usually carry this setup?
Barrel at 12 o’clock.

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moostapha said: ↑
Barrel at 12 o’clock.
Can you tie your own shoe laces? Honest question… my rig only extends ~1″ above my belt line and that makes lace tying tricky.

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reppans said: ↑
Can you tie your own shoe laces? Honest question… my rig only extends ~1″ above my belt line and that makes lace tying tricky.
Zero problems.

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moostapha said: ↑
Barrel at 12 o’clock.
Oh duh, that makes sense with the magazine placement. Unless you were super limber.

Have you thought about moving it to your hip for when you tuck your shirt in. A bigger gun will probably conceal better tucked in there. You’ll probably have to get a new holster, or at least a new mag carrier.

Just a thought.

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jkwithawave said: ↑
Oh duh, that makes sense with the magazine placement. Unless you were super limber.

Have you thought about moving it to your hip for when you tuck your shirt in. A bigger gun will probably conceal better tucked in there. You’ll probably have to get a new holster, or at least a new mag carrier.

Just a thought.
I have. And I have a couple that work there.

It prints a lot worse. Because of how I’m shaped, I can’t really conceal anything but a really tiny gun unless my shirt is overly bloused and I don’t really move.

I found a temporary solution…

Basically, I take the inner belt from my cr speed rig and just put the aiwb holster on that underneath the shirt and pants. If I let it and my pants ride high, I can sit and bend over. I still have to blouse a bit, but it’s not bad. It makes me look a little fat, but…whatever. It works better than the smart carry, at least…that thing feels like it’ll spit out any gun I try.

I ordered a belly band to try. I think I probably won’t trust it without figuring out how to integrate a trigger guard cover, but I want to try it.

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So, my LGS is awesome.

Around the start of this thread, I bought an m&p 9c. It didn’t work out. It IS smaller while still easy to shoot, but it doesn’t make a huge difference in concealment. It prints exactly the same, just a half an inch over.

So, I returned it and got a Shield instead. (Did I mention my LGS is awesome….they have a return policy.)

I’ll probably feel undergunned with it, but 214 rounds later (what I randomly brought to the range that day) and I kind of wonder why I didn’t get one sooner. Past about 30 feet is sketchy, 25yds is impossible, and from 15-25 feet is slow…but inside 10 feet or so, I can run it as fast as my Open M&P with the same hits.

And it disappears pretty well in my smart carry.

BUT the trigger is way too easy to pull through the material.

So, I see 2 good options moving forward.

1. Have a trigger guard cover made and anchor it in whichever wins between the smart carry and the belly band that should be here in a couple days.

2. Talk to the guy who made the holster in the first post and see about integrating a tough elastic belt like the smart carry has in a way that doesn’t require bulky clips.

Thoughts?

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