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I have a few 19s, gen 3, gen3rtf and a gen4. I like them, certainly prefer the glock trigger over the smith.
I also have a walther ppqm2. Really like the trigger on that gun, and honestly view it as the only alternative to the 19.
Strayz said: ↑
I am in a similar boat here. Only the order for me is HK VP9, PPQ then Glock 19. All seem to work for me but there are features and stuff I like about the two in front of the G19. After that I am going to a wheel gun.It is all about people, no two of us are alike and that is a good thing. Unless you like the XD then you are just weird. :rofl:
I had a PPQ and went back to a Glock 19 prior to the VP9 hitting the market. Shoot them all side by side if you get a chance. The trigger on the PPQ is the best IMO, but it’s also a bit light for a carry pistol in my mind. People in competition shooting with it have reported accidentally shooting too high with the pistol by pressing the trigger before the gun was back on target because it A) Has more muzzle rise than either of the other two and B) Has a very short and light trigger that’s easier to engage on accident when firing quickly. I also didn’t care for the grip texture and I hate putting decals on a gun so it was a bit too slippery in hand for me. It was a pistol I loved when I bought it but started to dislike the more I shot it and worked it into my daily carry. The VP9 and Glock 19 are still my favorites.
Strayz said: ↑
I hear there is a cure for the muzzle flip on the PPQ. It requires the navy version though. 🙂I have a 2 better cures than whatever it is: More training or another gun.
IMightBeWrong said: ↑
I have a 2 better cures than whatever it is: More training or another gun.Octane 9, just putting that out there.
Strayz said: ↑
Octane 9, just putting that out there.Wasn’t really thinking about that since my mindset is usually focused on concealed carry. If only I could IWB with a can comfortably…
If the M&P came from the factory with an Apex trigger, it would win out every time purely for the ergos. Alas, they do not. They come with a horrible trigger that takes a lot of trigger time to shoot well. The Glock, as much as I am not a fan, shot better right out of the box. After I did some tweaks to it, my G23 shot flatter and with less flip than my Sig P229 chambered in the same round. I did end up selling it, but I am buying a Gen4 G19 because, why not. Even if you are a hater, everyone should own at least one Glock.
CDKJudoka said: ↑
I am buying a Gen4 G19 because, why not. Even if you are a hater, everyone should own at least one Glock.I resisted Glocks for many, many years.
The Gen4 G19 is a superb weapon IMO. I’ll take it any day, all day, over my M&P.
CDKJudoka said: ↑
Even if you are a hater, everyone should own at least one Glock.
That, I can agree with. A good polish job, and the thing feels amazing. It’s just not as “nice” as m&ps to me.I’m also probably putting an Apex in each one eventually, though. The PC triggers at least fix the glaring errors.
Why S&W let a gun leave the drawing board with a false reset is completely beyond me.
CDKJudoka said: ↑
If the M&P came from the factory with an Apex trigger, it would win out every time purely for the ergos. Alas, they do not. They come with a horrible trigger that takes a lot of trigger time to shoot well. The Glock, as much as I am not a fan, shot better right out of the box. After I did some tweaks to it, my G23 shot flatter and with less flip than my Sig P229 chambered in the same round. I did end up selling it, but I am buying a Gen4 G19 because, why not. Even if you are a hater, everyone should own at least one Glock.Even if the M&P came with the APEX I would prefer a Glock 19. Unfortunately, S&W doesn’t make a middle of the road sized 9mm like the 19. On top of that, the ergonomics of the Glock actually work better for me. Glocks fit me like a glove for some reason. That’s subjective, of course. I do agree with your reasoning, Glocks are modern classics without a doubt.
CDKJudoka said: ↑
If the M&P came from the factory with an Apex trigger, it would win out every time purely for the ergos. Alas, they do not. They come with a horrible trigger that takes a lot of trigger time to shoot well. The Glock, as much as I am not a fan, shot better right out of the box. After I did some tweaks to it, my G23 shot flatter and with less flip than my Sig P229 chambered in the same round. I did end up selling it, but I am buying a Gen4 G19 because, why not. Even if you are a hater, everyone should own at least one Glock.Hate to re-quote the same post, but talking about it made me want another Glock 19 myself. I went to the shop today looking for a Gen 4 but they were out of stock. When I asked about an ETA for when one would come in, the clerk told me that the Gen 4 guns in 9mm are extremely hard to get in stock currently. Then, he pulled out a Glock 19 that he DID have in stock. It was one of the new Glock 19 TB models with a factory, matching serial number threaded barrel and raised sights with a high visibility front and blacked out, textured rear. In spite of the pistol being a Gen 3, I was in love right away. I ended up smacking my credit card down pretty quickly.
The only issue is that it’s being held. I just moved and the AZ MVD hasn’t sent out my new license with my updated address on it yet which the shop needs in order to run my background check. The gun is mine, but I need to run to the MVD and get a printout in order to take it home. Sigh. :nah_disagree:
Oh, and I almost forgot to mention that it’s a fully made in Austria pistol. This always makes me happy as I have a pretty long history with Glock pistols (I’ve previously had 5 others, more than anything from any brand, and they’ve all been Austrian) and I just like the idea of having my Austrian pistol actually made in Austria.
IMightBeWrong said: ↑
Hate to re-quote the same post, but talking about it made me want another Glock 19 myself. I went to the shop today looking for a Gen 4 but they were out of stock. When I asked about an ETA for when one would come in, the clerk told me that the Gen 4 guns in 9mm are extremely hard to get in stock currently. Then, he pulled out a Glock 19 that he DID have in stock. It was one of the new Glock 19 TB models with a factory, matching serial number threaded barrel and raised sights with a high visibility front and blacked out, textured rear. In spite of the pistol being a Gen 3, I was in love right away. I ended up smacking my credit card down pretty quickly.The only issue is that it’s being held. I just moved and the AZ MVD hasn’t sent out my new license with my updated address on it yet which the shop needs in order to run my background check. The gun is mine, but I need to run to the MVD and get a printout in order to take it home. Sigh. :nah_disagree:
Oh, and I almost forgot to mention that it’s a fully made in Austria pistol. This always makes me happy as I have a pretty long history with Glock pistols (I’ve previously had 5 others, more than anything from any brand, and they’ve all been Austrian) and I just like the idea of having my Austrian pistol actually made in Austria.
Click to expand…Congrats to you! The more I shoot the G19, the closer I get to becoming a fanboy.
I’d actually prefer mine to come from Smyrna, but that’s because I live in GA. And local jobs are cool.
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